Guru gossip and cultural cataclysm in Tiruvannamalai, South India
Saturday, January 3, 2015
Special anniversary edition of Chi-Ting!
After a decade of in your face abuse, Chi-Ting is fast approaching adolescence. But do not fear, that won't stop us ... nonduality is an endless feast of satire! Read the whole story on the Facebook post ...
the parody side of this hysterically satiriical blog was brilliantly effective in exposing a spiritual vaccum filled by a vast collection of carpet baggers and their assorted devious colleagues///the utterly grotesque John David (premananda),the equally sordid Mooji, and that rotten egg( and a nut job) in the form of De-Ruiter are but a few examples...,,,Kevji,this was just a preparation..the next 10 years should see them roasted with the bluest flame///.Strength to you.. .
From the Facebook page ... We're a bit late on this one as the original Chi-Ting poster campaign splattered every coffee shop and restaurant all over Arambol in late 2004. And the story goes like this ... "Chi-Ting emerged from the melting pot of Arambol Beach, Goa, 2004. A dissolute bunch of renegades gathered around the narcotically challenged figure of Kevin the beach junkie. Our gang contained 2 Kreutzberg anarchists from Berlin, a couple of psychedelic Israeli casualties, an extremely perverted Frenchman, and a Swiss Inspector Clouseau clone from Geneva.
The object of our collective ire was bumptious beach bore Panda Tai Chi - who was guilty of endless spiritual pontifications and flogging a dodgy commodity called Cosmic Consciousness. Panda had even had the cheek to write a self-aggrandising book entitled Autobiography of a Tai Chi Yogi (Yogananda would be turning in his grave!) It was all too much for our vomit threshold and so we decided to fight back! The day of reckoning was at hand and Kevin was elected as our glorious leader in the righteous cause of beach jihad ..."
We also published the Chi-Ting Guru Gossip website in late 2006 and the legendary Chi-Ting Cultural Revolution in March 2007. Unfortunately these sites don't exist anymore ...
We're not writing at the moment, but also blogger is not the most versatile platform ie no YT's and pictures in the comments etc etc. Eventually we will build a new website that is more interactive. We only write when we feel moved to and at the moment there is no direct inspiration, hence the silence ...
That clip with de Ruiter on Facebook page surrounded by thse Anunnaki sychophants is sickening enough to think that some of them may turn up in Tiru with him, makes me shiver with disbelief ... Kevji, how do you read this coming assault on Arunachala against the background of the creeping past and present debasement that's taking place? How is it possible to mitigate this looming tragedy? "Keep silent" is the perrenial message of our hill, but still my stomach revolts at the thought of that slimeball with the pachyderm hide traipsing around with his dumb ass followers.
Has anyone clicked SCHEDULE on Mark Koppikar home page? He's got a price list for his forthcoming jamboree in Tiru, a cool 890 quid for a few days of brain screwing. There's also (no kidding) an early bird discount, as well as a whole range of reduced rates for Indians, South Africans etc etc ... And yes he is a glutton of some repute, he states (in the paragraph before the tariff list) that Tiruvannamalai offers an exquisite cuisine and "EVERY ONE CAN EAT AS HE WISHES!" What do you reckon Kevji? Should this porcupine get the spruiker's job at a Chottiwalla munchery like they have in North India? He'll have to be dressed painted and decorated in a way that reflects South India's culinary variation ... This guy straddles the triangle of evil namely: banking, psychology and Gangaji plus he's got the appetite to flog it!
The Chi-Ting Master and Sister Klaus missed the sad news. Richard Clark is leaving India. Will miss his posts but the poor Chi-Ting Master and Sister Klaus will have no one to ridicule anymore.
An interesting perspective on spiritual things and teachers. I'd like to ask, though, what or who you would recommend for someone who is relatively new to this, someone who has come to see the painful and unfulfilling nature of what is called "the normal life." Is there a teacher or a text, in your view, that could provide good and honest guidance?
NO. There is only your own intuitive path and that is always subverted when you invest in external authority figures. Nobody can teach you anything. Teachers and teachings can only remind you of your own interior knowing; they can't do it for you. That is the road to hell!
Living in Tiru is an apocalypse ... which in its literal translation from the ancient Greek ἀποκάλυψις is a disclosure of knowledge, a lifting of the veil or a revelation!
Balanced View and Candice O'Denver - there's lots of material available for a next article. There's even a few groups popping up for ex members and ex trainers where the abuse and greed going on is openly discussed, but it is not in public yet.
I wanted to thank you for this blog. It's well needed antagonism to belief systems that usually get a free pass on criticism. I had an encounter with a Tibetan guru, Tsem Tulku Rinpoche, and am still sorting out the cognitive dissonance of beneficial teachings served up (though incompletely) in a toxic and abusive vessel.
If one wants to vet a guru, meet the students. The guru is an expert at their game, but the students betray the facade. What brought me here was an interest in Mooji. I had watched a few youtube videos, but stopped when I saw his entourage. Their expressions and body language gave it away. Grotesquely pious and self-indulgent to an extreme.
I very much enjoyed your history lesson on the origins of Advaita, which were finally illuminating to me in that I had always wondered why Shankara seemed to disparage buddhism at every turn and yet often preached the exact same philosophies using alternate terminologies. Having little interest in researching the minutiae of the Vedantic philosophies I left these thoughts alone, but your treatise explained everything quite well, and revealed much to me in regards to my suspicions.
However I still have some questions about the intersection of Advaita with the tradition of the Avadhuta and the Turiyatitavadhuta Upanishad. It seems highly incongruent, and yet perhaps cohesive with the emerging cult of the Siddhas and Mahasiddhas which would go on to originate Vajrayana buddhism and transplant it into Tibet. This thread which seems to bind tantrikas and kapalikas and kaulas and naths and so forth is something I have always found quite fascinating - especially as it seems to be regarded as viable sadhana even in its most "shocking" and "alternative" manifestations which are "difficult" (to say the least) to present in their entirety in the modern era. It also seems that such traditions may have woven in and out of the so-called vamamarga, or even attempted to distance themselves from such considerations entirely, while yet retaining quite a few of the same ritualistic practices and symbols.
I was wondering if you had any thoughts to share on this topic? And thanks for sharing the website with all of us - its quite well done.
the parody side of this hysterically satiriical blog was brilliantly effective in exposing a spiritual vaccum filled by a vast collection of carpet baggers and their assorted devious colleagues///the utterly grotesque John David (premananda),the equally sordid Mooji, and that rotten egg( and a nut job) in the form of De-Ruiter are but a few examples...,,,Kevji,this was just a preparation..the next 10 years should see them roasted with the bluest flame///.Strength to you.. .
ReplyDeletehow is it 10 years, if the blog only dates back to 2008 ? it's way short of what its author so enthusiastically purports to celebrate.
ReplyDeleteFrom the Facebook page ... We're a bit late on this one as the original Chi-Ting poster campaign splattered every coffee shop and restaurant all over Arambol in late 2004. And the story goes like this ... "Chi-Ting emerged from the melting pot of Arambol Beach, Goa, 2004. A dissolute bunch of renegades gathered around the narcotically challenged figure of Kevin the beach junkie. Our gang contained 2 Kreutzberg anarchists from Berlin, a couple of psychedelic Israeli casualties, an extremely perverted Frenchman, and a Swiss Inspector Clouseau clone from Geneva.
DeleteThe object of our collective ire was bumptious beach bore Panda Tai Chi - who was guilty of endless spiritual pontifications and flogging a dodgy commodity called Cosmic Consciousness. Panda had even had the cheek to write a self-aggrandising book entitled Autobiography of a Tai Chi Yogi (Yogananda would be turning in his grave!) It was all too much for our vomit threshold and so we decided to fight back! The day of reckoning was at hand and Kevin was elected as our glorious leader in the righteous cause of beach jihad ..."
We also published the Chi-Ting Guru Gossip website in late 2006 and the legendary Chi-Ting Cultural Revolution in March 2007. Unfortunately these sites don't exist anymore ...
DeleteYo Kev,
ReplyDeleteCan you FEEL this?...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTxyOhWIiw4
Bloody 'ell, who is this bloke the poundshop John de Ruiter?
DeleteKevji, we missed you on BlogSpot. We always knew you would come back.
ReplyDeleteBTW, Sister Klaus may be dead but she can still do wonders from the other side.
We're not writing at the moment, but also blogger is not the most versatile platform ie no YT's and pictures in the comments etc etc. Eventually we will build a new website that is more interactive. We only write when we feel moved to and at the moment there is no direct inspiration, hence the silence ...
DeleteThat clip with de Ruiter on Facebook page surrounded by thse Anunnaki sychophants is sickening enough to think that some of them may turn up in Tiru with him, makes me shiver with disbelief ... Kevji, how do you read this coming assault on Arunachala against the background of the creeping past and present debasement that's taking place? How is it possible to mitigate this looming tragedy? "Keep silent" is the perrenial message of our hill, but still my stomach revolts at the thought of that slimeball with the pachyderm hide traipsing around with his dumb ass followers.
ReplyDelete"If you wanna see them fall, let them rise" - Chuang Tzu. Gravity will catch up with the wannabe Christ and at some point he will go splat!
DeleteHas anyone clicked SCHEDULE on Mark Koppikar home page? He's got a price list for his forthcoming jamboree in Tiru, a cool 890 quid for a few days of brain screwing. There's also (no kidding) an early bird discount, as well as a whole range of reduced rates for Indians, South Africans etc etc ... And yes he is a glutton of some repute, he states (in the paragraph before the tariff list) that Tiruvannamalai offers an exquisite cuisine and "EVERY ONE CAN EAT AS HE WISHES!" What do you reckon Kevji? Should this porcupine get the spruiker's job at a Chottiwalla munchery like they have in North India? He'll have to be dressed painted and decorated in a way that reflects South India's culinary variation ... This guy straddles the triangle of evil namely: banking, psychology and Gangaji plus he's got the appetite to flog it!
ReplyDeleteHave you seen this? Anadi understands more than Ramana and Nisargadatta together...
ReplyDeletehttp://anaditeaching.com/maharshi-and-maharaj-acme-and-ending-of-advaita/
The Chi-Ting Master and Sister Klaus missed the sad news. Richard Clark is leaving India. Will miss his posts but the poor Chi-Ting Master and Sister Klaus will have no one to ridicule anymore.
ReplyDeleteAn interesting perspective on spiritual things and teachers. I'd like to ask, though, what or who you would recommend for someone who is relatively new to this, someone who has come to see the painful and unfulfilling nature of what is called "the normal life." Is there a teacher or a text, in your view, that could provide good and honest guidance?
ReplyDeleteNO. There is only your own intuitive path and that is always subverted when you invest in external authority figures. Nobody can teach you anything. Teachers and teachings can only remind you of your own interior knowing; they can't do it for you. That is the road to hell!
DeleteThank you. Do you find it helpful - spiritually speaking - to live in Tiru?
DeleteLiving in Tiru is an apocalypse ... which in its literal translation from the ancient Greek ἀποκάλυψις is a disclosure of knowledge, a lifting of the veil or a revelation!
DeleteBalanced View and Candice O'Denver - there's lots of material available for a next article. There's even a few groups popping up for ex members and ex trainers where the abuse and greed going on is openly discussed, but it is not in public yet.
ReplyDeleteThis comment has been removed by the author.
DeleteYes!!
DeleteI wanted to thank you for this blog. It's well needed antagonism to belief systems that usually get a free pass on criticism. I had an encounter with a Tibetan guru, Tsem Tulku Rinpoche, and am still sorting out the cognitive dissonance of beneficial teachings served up (though incompletely) in a toxic and abusive vessel.
ReplyDeleteIf one wants to vet a guru, meet the students. The guru is an expert at their game, but the students betray the facade. What brought me here was an interest in Mooji. I had watched a few youtube videos, but stopped when I saw his entourage. Their expressions and body language gave it away. Grotesquely pious and self-indulgent to an extreme.
I very much enjoyed your history lesson on the origins of Advaita, which were finally illuminating to me in that I had always wondered why Shankara seemed to disparage buddhism at every turn and yet often preached the exact same philosophies using alternate terminologies. Having little interest in researching the minutiae of the Vedantic philosophies I left these thoughts alone, but your treatise explained everything quite well, and revealed much to me in regards to my suspicions.
ReplyDeleteHowever I still have some questions about the intersection of Advaita with the tradition of the Avadhuta and the Turiyatitavadhuta Upanishad. It seems highly incongruent, and yet perhaps cohesive with the emerging cult of the Siddhas and Mahasiddhas which would go on to originate Vajrayana buddhism and transplant it into Tibet. This thread which seems to bind tantrikas and kapalikas and kaulas and naths and so forth is something I have always found quite fascinating - especially as it seems to be regarded as viable sadhana even in its most "shocking" and "alternative" manifestations which are "difficult" (to say the least) to present in their entirety in the modern era. It also seems that such traditions may have woven in and out of the so-called vamamarga, or even attempted to distance themselves from such considerations entirely, while yet retaining quite a few of the same ritualistic practices and symbols.
I was wondering if you had any thoughts to share on this topic? And thanks for sharing the website with all of us - its quite well done.