Gauri said ... [about Mooji]
The real problem with Mooji is his insistence on self inquiry as the one true way. He has borrowed this - apparently from Ramana and Papaji - because he has nothing to offer himself and needs to establish a lineage to furnish his claims of Messiahship. Little does he know Ramana only advised on self inquiry to those who asked about it. Ramana simply upheld the ancient Indian context when a method was requested of him. Silence not self inquiry was the hallmark of Ramana's teaching. Ramana never needed a method ... Teaching self inquiry does not endorse spiritual authenticity. Mooji's emphasis on self inquiry is a cheap sales trick from a cheap con artist who is well known to have never been acknowledged by Papaji.
Mooji has publicly announced on his posters from late 2006 to be the standardbearer of Ramana's lineage. However, as Gauri says, his only tool is self inquiry. Mooji is a secondhand car salesman offering the liturgies of spiritual greats who have walked before him ... which he has the audacity to claim for his own personal ambition.
Mooji's satsang is a Papaji-lite tribute band completely devoid of inspiration, originality and true feeling. He has polluted and prostituted both Advaita and Arunachala for his own egoic ends.
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dear gauri, some of us reformed lucknow-ites still remember mooji's fondness of the local subterranean sewers around the indira nagar colony, where he hatched his future mission as a saviour, as well as collecting rat's snot and pig's saliva to fashion his dreadlocks. one could never imagine back then that this unprepossessing member of papaji's OUTER CIRCLE would become a magnet to all these infantiles ... question is; how do we extend compassion his way without hurting his feelings? vgefambe
Mooji is not the worst of the post-Lucknow offspring. That prize goes to Madhukar with his psychosexual orgiastic fervour. But Mooji is symbolic of something deeply rotten in modern day Advaita.
Mooji is a metaphor for everything which stinks about modern spirituality. Empty and hollow - devoid of meaning - and a cover version of the classics which were never that good, even in their heyday.
luke bowley,alias govinda,should be acknowledged and lauded for his good works, selfless untiring efforts,and unflinching resolve to bring about positive changes by reversing environmental degradation, and inspiring many with his 'spiritualism with a purpose approach',a shining example that authentic altruism does exist.
It's just a bit unfortunate that Govinda is a stuck up prat who looks down on the populace like some feudal prince!
OK already! Mooji is a bit player and Papaji never endorsed him.
Don't give him so much 'air space.' He's not that important, doesn't deserve a second look.
Actually I said everything that I wanted to say about the silly fat Demon. He, Spermananda and Madhukar are in the same league as Papaji's bastard offspring.
When our mystic poet Kevan M asked me 12 years ago if I knew some houses for the approaching horde of Papaji idiots, I should have killed him then and there - because then this fucking charade started. So you can held me responsible in a way.
Mea maxima culpa.
I guess we just have to put up with these idiots. I trust that the Hill will get rid of them in its own mysterious ways.
Meanwhile, I agree, don't give them too much airspace but just enough rope to hang them with. Give us a little fun to lark about and take the piss out of these fucking morons.
As for Papaji's offspring ... no one's worse than Gangaji living the 5 star lifestyle and pretending she's in the direct lineage of Ramana Maharshi and Papaji. She uses it like a pedigree. Her self promotion is second to none and she's a skilled performer. Every opportunity is taken to milk the devotees of cash at the numerous satsangs and retreats. Sleezy Eli Jaxon-Bear is skulking in the background making a very nice living out of the traveling circus they call advaita.
nice that people are waking up to the shallowness of papaji .. loved the title godman gave the biography, nothing ever happened ..
tony moo, rather boring, but it's the level of unconscious followers he attracts that has been a huge problem for tiruvannamalai .. i know of many local people who despise his scene, none who support it. though, :-), maybe my bias against him selects such friends
another interesting tiru thing, the tamasic crowd of foreigners that gather every evening around bhajan time across the street from ramanashram, smoking and drinking their chai, too cool for school. laughable.
if i was a local shop/house owner, i would raise my prices to the roof, can't stop the cultural pollution, might at least get their money. and pray for the off-season to come.
The Papaji crowd are pathetic. Gangaji and her plastic surgery. Mooji and his new wave rastafarianism for neo liberal hippies. They attract the spiritual lost: eco-chicks who still haven't realised that global warming is the latest political scam and 90s soft-men bringing up the baby who discovered Lao Tsu in Barnes & Noble. Light some incense, talk peace and love and maybe they'll try some of that self inquiry shit. They think their past life was somewhere in the Holy Land. Cool man ...
Agree with you, guys, but let's not forget another major clown of the Papaji circus as mentioned before: H.H. Madhukar from Deutschland.
He is ALL about the ego, power, money and sex. Check out this gem:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0k36zKTIF4
And this does not happen just in India, but all over Europe. The M-logo spreads like virus.
Maybe food for a next topic?
Peace,
J.
What's the real story of Arunachala Grace morphing into Arunachala Samudra? All these happy snaps of Tiruvannamalai. Is it not just a cover for business as usual and real estate deals?
madhukar is as he is, no doubt .. but people need who they are attracted to, for whatever reason.
and, you know, kindergarten teachers don't have to have PhDs ..
the tiru scene is a zoo,no doubt, in a squalid little rural south india town, with some extremely lovely tamil folks, a great energetic source of a mountain, the very liberal ramanashram, and maybe one or two people actually doing sadhana. i think there were one or two, once upon a time.
experiences come and go, wackos are forever.
and it is hard to imagine that anybody who has discovered who they are would remain in tiruvannamalai .. they would go on with their natural lives.
so, conclusion, them, is us.
enjoy
Robert Rabbin, low life spiritual teacher and executive coach. He fled Australia to get a bigger slice of the action in the States. Could someone clobber him before he sniffs opportunities and sets foot in Tiruvannamalai. Below is a snippet of his outlook on advaita and the Maharshi: "Ramana only went away; he didn’t come back. And we, in our hunger for truth, peace, and meaning, have come to mistake going away as the ideal. Ramana Maharshi needed to come back into a full, robust, sensual, sexual, passionate embodiment of that silence. We should not make his mistake"
Robert Rabbin is a charismatic business speaker who is fixated on the notion of "truth". Apparently for him the distinction between the inner and the outer has dissolved (I have heard some pseudo-enlightenment claims in my life but this is a new one). He has all the catchphrases, asking Who Am I etc etc. He's extremely political, suggests America was complicit in the events of 9-11. Just another salesman with lots of persuasive theories. If we should be embodying truth, seems that truth has a particular definition - which of course would be his. Partial, selectivist and highly moral. The usual suspects ...
Arunachala Grace -> Arunachala Samudra. What is wrong with the happy pix of Tiru? I prefer her site to the Arunachala-Ramana Forum that is just a lot of useless chatter.
The only thing I worry about this the lady is that she could be the front for powerful real estate barons in the area and as you know in India most land deals are shady. Other than that she is a lovely lady who has helped a lot of people. I wish her all the best. Arunachala will no doubt take care of her and protect her.
That's my point that 'the lovely lady' how ridiculous and syrupy that sounds. The strong possibility that Arunachala Grace is simply a front for ruthless real estate deals and the usual commercial scheming.
I believe Mooji is coming to Tiru with his culture of make believe. He'll be entering the marketplace of the unholy business. For indeed a business man he is! Self promotion is his forte.
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Gangaji's devotees sob on the stage, she sobs on the stage with them. Gangaji's devotees exhort their awakening experiences on the stage, so does she. Highly choreographed, highly cynical. "I'm just like you" she croons - "Oh but you're not, you're so enlightened Gangaji!", they chorus back. So sick. This woman is responsble for a lot of the spiritual sickness in Tiru today, not just Mooji. The California parade has been a well-greased engine for many many years. Her blatant dishonesty is plastered over her lovely resculpted face. She wants money, she wants adulation and she even despises her husband as part of her power trip. Makes Mooji look like a beginner.
I think she is a 'lovely lady'. If you have a problem with that, then that is your problem, not mine.
Arunachala Grace & Arunachala Samudra have fantastic posts on Arunachala, the Arunachaleswarar temple and the goings on in Tiruvannamalai. I have benefited immensely from them. I just don't buy real estate.
It is called using my discrimination or critical thinking. That apart I don't have the big bucks to buy property right now. My rented digs is my palace (for now).
Atma vichara was taught by a handful of Indian rishis (e.g. Vasishta) long before Ramana - but it is very misunderstood. Ramana was quite easily able to talk about it and recommend it to different followers but of course it is a spiritual technique - and only a technique that is suitable for some people. If you do self enquiry eventually you will have to drop it, realising it is useless for realisation. Modern spiritual commentators have created the false impression that Ramana had a method and self enquiry was that method. It's a serious misrepresentation. Anyone with even a little integrity realises that whatever they do or think and whatever anyone else does or think is entirely beyond their control and that there is not even anyone there to control it. If you look carefully, Ramana said this far more often than he talked about self enquiry. All these books and texts about Ramana are promoting the idea of personal autonomy even further - exactly the OPPOSITE of what Ramana taught and NOTHING TO DO with liberation.
Self enquiry was an important teaching of Ramana's but so was devotion and complete surrender. It's quite clear that Ramana did not promote personal autonomy. In reply to the pleadings of his mother he said: "The ordainer controls the fate of souls in accordance with their parabhdakarma. Whatever is destined not to happen will not happen, try as you may. What ever is destined to happen will happen, do what you may to prevent it. This is certain. The best course, therefore is to remain silent." Furthermore with rare, ripe devotees he only had to say 'Iru' ('Be') and that in itself was transformative.
"Mooji's satsang is a Papaji-lite tribute band completely devoid of inspiration, originality and true feeling. He has polluted and prostituted both Advaita and Arunachala for his own egoic ends."
Sounds like the war cry before the battle of Kurekshetra again. Who hasn't prostituted Advaita and Arunachala? Was Papaji egotistically pure or simply pure entertainment?
"Ramana Maharshi needed to come back into a full, robust, sensual, sexual, passionate embodiment of that silence."
Only a celibate or a sexual loser would take Ramana as their life role model.
Recently Mooji and his friend were sitting in a cafe and a devotee came up, bowed and touched Mooji's feet. His friend then asked the devotee to do the same to him! Next day Mooji said in his satsang how dare his friend to do that! What a conceited git! Mooji has become extremely arrogant and has always thought he was the special one but now he's getting even worse!
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